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Exactly what are we preparing for and when will it happen? Is everyone on the same page or are perspectives different? Are some here preparing for economical collapse and anarchy, a Pandemic or weather related event.? I think many spiritual groups have also predicted a spiritual event or shift in consciousness is in the horizon.

Personally I have no idea what I am preparing for. I just know I need to do it. All of the above scenarios are possible.
The date 2012 gets thrown around a lot but many of us are feeling sooner.
I would be curious to hear others thoughts on what how they think it will go down.

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What are we not preparing for?


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Why do you buy auto, home, medical, life insurance? What do you get back if you never put in a claim or need it?

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Elijah, talk of pandemics scare the hell out of me. I work in health care and the system is extremely fragile already. Many Hospitals and Emergency rooms are already at the breaking point without some type of national health crisis occurring. People need to have some type of medical knowledge and be able to provide some type of care at home.

My Daughter had an odd dream that really stuck with her. In here dream the Military was going door to door rounding up people who had symptoms of a respiratory illness. They were going to be taken to camps.

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Lets see.

Natural disasters--could happen at any moment. Earthquake, extreme cold weather w/o electricity, Tsunamis, etc.etc. I've already had to use some of my stuff for this. It was an excellent lesson for the kids!!!

Economic collapse- Looks like it's started, but nothings really changed yet.

War- I'm of the opinion that nothing will happen until after the Presidential election. January,09, would be a good time. Millions of people would simply freeze and starve to death. Changes of power are always vulnerable points of time for a nation.

There might need to be a trigger event, but the bible says it will be sudden. If the USA has a New Madrid earthquake or something that is a major natural disaster(tsunami, economic collapse,etc) that could make the US more vulnerable to this scenario. China has the Olympics this summer so I don't think they would want to forgo that, but it would be a wonderful deception. The rhetoric worldwide is rising and few people like the USA.

I am very curious though, what led you to this. My background is military/political history, so I've seen it coming for a while now. I was also raised this way. What triggered you into this? A website, a dream, a neighbor?

SB

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Well I agree about buying insurance. I'm guessing the amount of money most of us have spent on preps is small compared to the insurance premiums we have been paying on for decades.
I look at PMs as insurance. I don't plan of selling. I just want them there in case.

On the other hand you can not prepare for everything. Its not possible.

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Loss of modern services from any number of reasons. For example the water-treatment plant gets shut down for 3 months. How many people have both a filter for bacteria removal and knowledge of chlorine to remove viruses? How do you make it without electricity, natural gas, or propane refills to heat and cook with?

I'm not prepped where I want to be but my first goal is 6 months of food, water, cooking, and heat supplies with some guns and ammo thrown in. I have some PM's but I can't eat or drink them. I think there will be a big panic for months if modern services were to be lost before any real bartering would take place.

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Squirrel Bait, I come from and odd family. My Mother and Sister both had psychic abilities. My Mother lived through the Depression and Nuclear bomb scares so she always stored food and supplies.

My Sister joined a survivalist and spiritual Commune in the wilds Montana back in the 80s. It was a very extreme place and she lost perspective on the real world. Then she mysteriously died out there. No one could ever find a cause of death. My Sisters death is largely responsible for why family members get edgy when I talk survival. They fear I will go over the edge too.

In truth I am very grounded and went the opposite route living from day to day and paycheck to paycheck. Something just clicked in me recently, something internal that says prepare because something is coming. I have tried really hard to ignore it but i can't. It nags.

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No, not odd. It's interesting, people throughout history have had gifts that others didn't understand. Many have been burned at the stake. GG just recently posted something about Joan of Arc.

You keep on listening to your inner voice. Everyone else here is

SB

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SB, thanks for the encouragement. :)

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Always asking myself that same question.

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Lt Dan, it sounds like you learned some useful skills in the Hospital. That's interesting about using your CPR outside the hospital. Thank God I have never had to use mine.!!!

I think there is a fine line between the ant and the grasshopper. On one hand we are suppose to trust in God to supply our needs. On the other hand when you realize how fragile all systems in the US are its foolish not to prepare. As far as the Govemnt saving us..PFTTT!! That's who i am afraid of.

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God does, but we gotta listen!!!!!!!!! please read.

There was an old man sitting on his porch listening to his radio while watching the rain fall. Over the radio came a loud warning siren and the announcer said ... "Evacuate the area! A Flood is coming!" Right after the warning the water started coming over the porch and into the house.

The old man moved to the second floor looking out the window, when a rescue boat came and the people on board said,"You can't stay here the flood is here!" Please come with us."

The old man replied, "No, God will save me." So the boat left. A little while later the water was up to the second floor, so the man climbed up onto the roof. This time a helicopter flew over head and through a loud speaker said "You are going to drown if you stay here! Please come with us!"

The old man again replied,"God will save me." So they flew off to get others stranded.

An hour later the water was up over the roof and sweeps the man into the flooding water, where he drowns and goes to heaven. When he awakens, he is extremely mad and disappointed. When he sees God he asks him, "Why didn't you save me?"

God replied, "I Tried! I sent you a warning, then a boat, then a helicopter!!"

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Good analogy.

If you are prepared you can help others. If you have children you have a responsibility to do whatever it takes to keep them safe and sound....

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First off who is "WE." Answer that and you answer all your other questions too.

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Here's one WASP proverb that's worth all the rest put together: God helps those who help themselves.

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What are we preparing for?

For my wife and myself, I'd say an economic 'event' is the most likely thing to happen in the near term with political upheaval a close second.

But, who cares? Really. Regardless of what happens, be it an economic event, natural disaster, social upheaval, etc., people always need the same things. If you are stocking up on food, water, fuel, hygiene products, etc., you're preparing for whatever may come along. Once you've secured these things, for whatever time period you think prudent, then you can obtain specific items to cover particular events you think are likely such as dosimeters if you feel a nuclear threat is a possibility.

Whatever though, if you feel it necessary to stock goods for hard times, please START NOW or continue your preps.

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Thou art God.

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Economic collapse, social chaos, famine, pestilence, nuclear attack, U.N. or Foreign armies occupation, martial law, detention/death camps...tribulation,

Then the return of Christ to destroy the wicked and redeem His church...


Proverbs 27:12 (New International Version)

The prudent see danger and take refuge,
but the simple keep going and pay the penalty.

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I'm not so worried about pandemics. What concerns me is economic meltdown and ensuing chaos. Or martial law.

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Has your daughter seen the movie Outbreak? :wink:

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White..sure...Anglo-Saxon...yep...Protestant?...not so fast....not at all....:wink:


Oh..and to keep it topical....I'm not worried about a hard landing just yet....but I am also fotunate to live in a valley with some good folks and we're prepared for pastoral living.

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SB, good story..lol

Kuggerand, my Daughter has not seen Outbreak. She did seethe movie I Am Legend a few weeks ago and said parts of it looked like her dream. I think our concern over a pandemic has been increased due to the fact the Home Land Security wants to put National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility a few miles from our home. The more we learn about it the worse it sounds.

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I find this interesting, given that most people were convinced that 911 was caused by terrorists and that iraq had WMD's and that IRAN has nukes...I use has deliberately, and the world is suffering global warming and the polar bears are falling in the ocean because all the ice melts... you've seen the pictures on tv right?

it doesn't matter if a pandemic actually and truthfully occurs. it is what the government can convince people has happened. Regardless of whether Bird Flu can transmit from person to person or not, the govt will show us pictures on tv of sick people on stretchers being taken to centers by people in masks and we will be convinced that there is a pandemic.

Then they will call for us to stay in our homes for a while. Then they will announce that they have an innoculation that protects against the flu virus. Everyone will turn up at the pandemic centers to get their protection shots.

Thats how they will infect everyone. It doesn't matter if the flu can be transmitted or not. It only matters that people think it can.

So remember, there is not enough tamiflu for everyone. They have made only so much of it and it has all been allocated to important people. And it would take years to produce enough for everyone.

When they come out and announce that they have innoculations for everyone then you will know 100% that you are under threat because it is not possible.

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Glass, your scenario sounds plausible. my distrust runs deep too. There is no way I will willingly be injected with any vaccine the Government sends out for a pandemic. Ditto to tamiflu. Tamiflu is not effective. Call me paranoid but I feel there is an agenda with vaccines.

I have been reading about the camps the Government are building and reopening. I suppose that is where the uncooperative people will go. They have to catch you first though.

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I think the percentage of people really preparing for anything on this forum is about 1%, probably much less.

Most are here to make some more frn's on their investment. I sure as hell was.

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I don't get that impression. I think it is more like 50% see gold/silver as preparation for hard times. Now, we may all differ on what those hard times will look like, and we surely differ in how we've prepared.

For me, I believe hard times are inevitable, and much of this is due to my Bible beliefs. It doesn't take much faith, however, to see that our economy/government/society is basically doomed at this point.

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SLV, its not just the bible. Many spiritual groups including the Hopi Indians feel we are on the edge of something big.

Call it the second coming or something more New Age like morphing from the 3rd dimension to the 5th. It all plays out the same. Some type of major upheaval on earth and then a new age of peace and beauty in a more elevated world.

I think physical preparations are good and many people feel called to prepare. I also think spiritual preparation is in order too.

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AKA "Hide and Seek... and Destroy" :D

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Im betting on the Illuminati releasing some type of pandemic for population control. What can I say? I'm a fan of Alex Jones. :)

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I think it depends which part of the forum you are looking at. This group is really very dynamic in the diversity of topics it covers. Some are chart/financial guru's while some are pure survivalists. What I value about this forum is that there is a healthy balance in realizing the need for both. Which is where I think most of us are.

SB

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What do I prep for? I prep foremost for my family and for my self. I guess I have always been a prepper to some extent or another. I don't think that any of us can possibly be prepared for all circumstances that could arise, most of us would certainly not have the financial resources to cover all the "proverbial" bases. Not to mention the logistics of it all if you plan to bug out.

Imho one of the most important preps first and foremost should be a great plan, in fact 2 or 3, a back up.. then a back up to the back up. But also understand that a plan is no guarantee of a successful outcome.

Start off by stocking for the most likely scenario for you given geographic local, then start to consider other possible scenario's that may radiate out from there and stock or prep accordingly. Same thing when you consider a regional event, then a national and on to a global event. Prep what you can.. when you can, and know what you are prepping AND its proper use.

In the end we all have a different idea of what a proper prep should be, and that thats a good thing! Learn from others and keep and open mind. One preppers mental trash can create a spark that could be the difference of life or death to another.

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Preparing? That's easy: read history.

Then read the daily news and you'll see all the weak links in our system are old news, as are their usual trajectories, which play out the same stories over and over.

Besides, most of the preparations are the same. The one that is overlooked again and again is knowledge. If you want to survive, you need to know how to make something out of nothing. Go out with your clothes and re-make civilization out of broken glass and railway trash. Your preps are nice but can always be stolen and are too heavy to carry. If you fight for them, you'll only draw fire. Eventually even a placid, 10-year Depression would consume them all. You need to know how to create, not consume.


Sometimes I have read the prophesy of many different cultures. There seems to be a consensus that there will be a 1/3 to 1/2 die off.

You might be interested in this:
http://www.wolflodge.org/visibiliti/prophecy/redsky.htm

It follows Revelations in its own way. Remember Daniel's "7 years" of tribulation and the Red Moon? This is 10. Others have suggested running to the hills without stopping for a coat. This suggests staying out of contact of "the world" until the 10 years have passed. The only cause I can see to be so adamant about no contact is disease.

They have a lot in common, but Revelations was short on specifics. This adds them, if you want to credit it.

What's important is not whether it's true but that a critical mass of people BELIEVE it's true. They will play out whatever story they most believe in. Believing it, rather than in cooperation and abundance all around us, they make it so, and they will make impossible for everyone who doesn't believe as they do. You could look at it as a "Natives and Whites" story all over again. A paradise they couldn't see, believing they were expelled from the Garden, they then trampled the Garden and its caretakers rather than open their eyes and enjoy it.

Just a thought. Don't let it delay your actions.

TS

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